My MGP and Southern 100 Review - bit long winded...

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My MGP and Southern 100 Review - bit long winded...

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It's a bit long winded folks so grap a cuppa, sit down and have a gander at my ramblings for 5 mins.
It jumps from here to there but you'll get the jist.

Well, 2011 was a year to remember and the foundations have been laid for a cracking 2012 on the old 400.

Mr Middleton fettled and tweaked the girl, I fettled and then managed to untweak the old girl, then Slick Bass had to re-tweak the untweaked tweaks that Rog had originally tweaked so well - note to self "keep hands in pocket"

My first outing on it in 2011 was at the Southern 100 - some baptism for the old girl was that!
Two races, one finish in about 6th and then in the second I was going for it no matter what.
Alistair Howarth was away at the front on his Yam 400, then it was Peter Simpson on his 1mm oversize ZXR then old Jonesy had managed to sneak the Green rascal up to 3rd.
I was as keen as a tramp on chips to pass Peter and grab 2nd spot but missing a gear out of the last corner let about 4 bikes pass me, this was with 1 lap to go......bugger!

Not to worry though, the bike was not missing a beat, well apart from a little clutch slip under full load, which I originally thought was the back wheel spinning up! Idiot!

The next outing was gonna be the Manx Grand Prix - yee haaaaa!

Well after swapping flat slides for CV's, then swapping CV's for Flat slides and then back again I thought that it was best to run the CV's. Roger set these up and they were bob on and I mean on the money.
The Flat slides, I just could not get them dialled in. They had hours on the Dyno but I was pissing in the wind with them. I needed the full on racing slides not the SP ones.

I remember going down Bray hill on first practice with the Flat slides, thinking, "am gonna pull in as this is SLOW". However with a bit of perseverance and some words of wisdom form Rog the CV's went back on.

I also managed to burn a clutch out and create an oil leak. The oil leak was comin out of the rocker box, at the spark plug holes. You know, the holes which have those rubber seal thingies underneath them. Well after much on and off activity and about a tube of Black mastic, it still frikin leaked. The leak was stayin as I think if I took it apart again I would have set the giraffe on fire.

I also needed a 17t front sprocket, but to no avail. My gearing was never right. It was either under or over.
I know you need to find a compromise but I couldn't even get close.
On race day I was in top wayyyyyy to early and my top speed was down about 15 - 20mph on the leader.

Practice on the whole was pretty miserable in all honesty. I never really got a clear run, I never set the suspension (apart from race day), gearing was wrong, apart from theses tiresome matters I had her dialled in like a Moto GP bike.
My fastest practice lap was 102.3 on my second practice session and the fastest lap in practice was 106, by me mate Billy on his 83bhp Yam.
Practice leader board:
106 Billy Smith
104.89 Alistair Howarth
104.3 Ross Johnson
103.2 Peter Simpson
103.19 Dan Millard
102.5 Mike Carter
102.3 Adam Jones

Race day was Wednesday and it was, damp on parts of the lower track and then wet on the mountain. Never mind, it was gonna be the same for everyone.
On the line, she started to boil up!!! Jebus, can anything go right for me.
My game plan was to absolutely nail it through all the corners and then whatever I made on them I would only loose a little on the straights.

The flag went down and Booooooooooooom as was away down Bray Hill! FYI - Not Boooom, she dropped her ass.
Am not kiddin you I was pushing as much as possible.
I was braking later than ever, taking corners faster than ever. You name it I was trying to do it.
On the lower half of the track it was a bit sketchy. My tyre choice was a Supercorsa rear and a 364 front, it made life interesting I tells ya.

Once I got to Guthrie's memorial on the Mountain it was pissin it down but I just had to keep on goin as fast as I dared.
I managed to navigate the majority of the Mountain incident free then I came to the 33rd. I was flat in 5th and the 33rd is a big sweeping left hander and as I tipped it in I started to slide on the White lines.
The bike was sliding and my butt was makin buttons and I thought "am off here and heading down the mountain, it's gonna sting"
The ZXR gods were shining that lap and I managed to keep her off the Green stuff and away from the Sheep...phewwwwey.

By the end of lap one I was in 4th with a lap of 101.8, the leader was on a 103.8 - wowzerrrs!
Lap two I was still in 4th with a 102 and Billy was leading with a 104

Pit stop time at the end of lap two, let the fun and games begin.

I stopped at my pit box.
Prior to the race I told the guys that I would need a push as the battery wont have enough charge for the starter motor. "Right boss" was the answer from all 3 of them, happy days at least I'll get out of the pit lane incident free.
Here goes. The filler cap was lifted and refuelling began. The refuelling consisted of fuel was being put in the tank, my glove and finally my boot. I was fully re- fuelled and literally a human bomb, the boys weren't worried though, they thought it was hilarious.

"Push" I shouted.
"what ya sayin jonesy"
"Push me"
"What was that" cam the response once more
"Fu*kin push me"

And away I went.
Lap 3 I did a 97.5 and the leader did a 103.4. I was down to 7th. The leader was on a 4 lap tank which as you know the ZXR cant manage it the thirsty little bugger she is.
The last lap I managed a 103.5 which was my fastest lap of the week. I think this was down to being passed by David Yeoman's on his ZXR. I was on my own for the majority of the race and when David passed me I had somit to chase. David did a 105.2 on his last lap, excellent lap squire.

I crossed the line and that was it. My race was over.
I absolutely loved every minute of it, the bike never missed a beat and it gave me all it could.
Racing a 400 is ace. I also ride a 600 but the 400 wins hands down every time.

2011 gave me everything that it could and if I wanted more with what I had then I was asking the impossible.
2012 and am going to be on it.
Mr Middleton will be receiving by bike in Feb. Discussions have taken place as to what needs to be done and finger crossed the ZXR will be magnificent.

Finally, I'd like to thank
Roger Middleton (RMKD Racing) for all the work he has done for me, mega job Rog.
Slick Bass for all fixing of stuff that I've broke
Dave Abbot, John O'Hare and Tony Oates for their help in the pits, without theses guys I would not be racing
Cargo for his help in the paddock and just bein there in case I needed a moan
Dan Millard and his pit crew for helping me out with bits and bobs
And lastly, Neil Kent who lost his life doin what he loved. Only got to know Neil over the last couple of years but he would help out where he could and was a totally ace guy.


I know the above is a bit long winded and it may not be written in the best Queens English, but thanks for reading it and I wish all members past present and future all the best for 2012. May it be fast, breakdown free and we can all talk about it next year.

That's all folks.

Adam Jones
aka - Jonesyiom or just Jonesy - imaginative nickname or what :smt001

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Re: My MGP and Southern 100 Review - bit long winded...

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Happy New Year to you too , sounds like you had a blast last one :smt004

FCR's , go to a tuner who actually knows what they are doing with them! There is no such thing as race ones - they are all 'uckin race ones :smt005 You can however find ones who have been tuned by an ACTUAL race company - Bito R&D

This " Stick with CVKs they are better " = " I have no 'uckin clue with FCRs "

With out access to rolling road I set mine up and once on the tuner said " Almost perfect , fuel/air is as good as FI and a needle change will sort your glitch low down or just don't let the revs fall under 5K " Suprise suprise, he specialized in FCRs

Flatslides have been used on sport/race bikes for many years look around the paddock. My 1985 RG400 has them on it ! Should I rip them off and fit CVKs ?

I use a 17T front sprocket - You can get them :smt017

Anyhoo, all the best in the coming season - be safe,

MM! :smt001
Nothing worse than having an H and not being able to scratch it !
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Re: My MGP and Southern 100 Review - bit long winded...

Post by 400y »

Not long winded at all its a good write up - the Manx is a mega experience. I've done it twice and would love
to go each year but money is an issue. Hopefully might get back in 2013 if i'm still topside biggrin

I have an H 400 for this year on the Irish roads so really looking forward to it.
and no - I havnt gotten a baldy notion about 400's been used to a Twin.

I've been enjoying this webside for info and the craic. :excited
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Re: My MGP and Southern 100 Review - bit long winded...

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Gearing for a circuit at 37 odd miles is kinda hard to work out....................there are so many changes of direction and variations in wind speed and direction.

If the wind is in your teeth on the Mountain Mile you will not pull the same gearing as you did down Sulby staight. Or the climb out of Ramsey or the drop from the Creg...............it is always a compromise and a educated guess on race day morning.....................gearing is also effected by your talent/ball size too.


If there is one man on this planet that knows how to get the best from a ZXR it's RMKD................I used his basic set up guidance for my FCRs and got great results on the dyno from both my RMKD engine and from very scruffy tuned by persons unkown engines.................................too many dynos are focused on fuel injection set ups and in my experience most wouldn't know too much about carbs. One guy here had my bike for two weeks...............and did NOTHING I went to his workshop and removed my bike.......................I now use a really great guy who while he doesnt carry too much in the way of jetting etc at least he knows what he's doing and has help me no end..............but it was RMKD base settings that made the job easy.

I've done very few miles on my RMKD engine so I'll not be doing too much with it for next Manx....................and I'll certainly be continuing with my FCRs

I'm going to have to get my finger out soon and get some work done been very :smt015 lately
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Re: My MGP and Southern 100 Review - bit long winded...

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Cheers for the reads and feedback fellow ZXR'rs.
Mori Man - a 17t will be purchased way ahead of this years Manx, I mean I've only got 8 months - am sure this will assist.......it better :gamer
As for your RG 400, yeah, why the heck not. Get those Flat slides off and throw on your CV's it'll keep ya outa mischief for a while, and then just chuck em in the post to me and I'll stick em on mine, just for fun. Cheers for the comments and hell yeah, I'll be safe :smt003

400y - I would love to do some Irish Roads on my 400 but the price for getting off the IoM is a tad on the expensive side. I can sort of feel for all the racers who come from the UK / Ireland for the Manx or the TT. All I can say is that you have either an understanding (very) partner, great sponsors, you sell you body or your just deal with the consequences / bills after the event- the later is my preferred choice.
AN H model you say. I have heard a lot of good things about the H model - never ridden one myself but a few lads I know love em. Good luck to u an all fella in your road campaign this season. It's great to see so many 400 knocking about still. The more we race em the more likely they will keep the class goin. Al the best.

Cargo, I was on the blower to Roger on Monday night, an almighty plan is afoot. Well it's almighty to me but to Mr M it's just a case of "giv it hear and leave me to it".
Am tempted to have another stab of the old Flats, only tempted mind you. If I can get 1.5 or 2 bhp out of them then happy days, but I aint riding with what I had last year, no way hozayyyyyyy. Am way excited I tells ya, actually am that excited a little bit of wee just escaped :pmsl

Finally, if I have the time I may start knocking up a few more race reviews and maybe a pre season "And this is where were up to" report, just for fun like.
I don't mind a bit of typing as am a proper office waller, with soft hands and chair permanently stuck to my butt, So writing a few lines before I start work sort of makes me forget that most of my colleagues are a load of workshy, back stabbin, bitchin and sneaky sneaky little bast**ds, no more to be said on that as am not one of the aforementioned :-)

Anyway, thanks for reading and feedbackin and I hope we all have a mega, mint, diamond terrific 2012 season.

Jonesy
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