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Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:21 pm
by rene
whats better handeling got to do with how safe you are? all it means is you can go round cornors faster, thus putting your self at grater risk

and from personaly experiance they dont handel any better than the 400's on road as there to twitchy and feel very un planted

id recomend a 400 to anyone as a first bike weather they've had 0 road experiance or 30 years worth of car driving, in the words of tony tiger "there grate"

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:00 pm
by psychopaulgtr
i passed my bike test when i was 19 i bought a zxr but when i rode it home it was full power i felt it was too powerful so i had it restricted so i could get used to a proper bike. it would still do 110mph but it would take a while to get there. after about 8 months of it being restricted i was ready for the full power again and had the resrictors out. November last year i bought a brand new zx6r that had to be restricted for them to legally sell me the bike but that restriction again helped me to get used to that bike and also it needed running in so i couldnt really go fast anyway. 2 months after i bought it i took out the resrictors and i have a full power zx6r now. the resriction is due off my liscence next month any way but i goes to show having a bike resricted gives you confidence and when you work your way up increasing power it makes you a better rider because your not getting thrown in the deep end.

i think the direct access test is too easy and they need to put a max power of about 66bhp (zxr) on their liscence for the first 12 months two years is too long then give them full power just so they can gain essential riding skills without getting put off by seeing how fast their gsxr 1000 will go. the reason why i think this is because this guy my mam worked with was abit of a cocky sod he took two weeks off to do his das he passed first time and the day he passed he bought a hayabusa from a local suzuki dealer thinking he can handle it...................... he was dead less than a hour after leaving the showroom.

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:14 pm
by rene
by the sounds of it you were silly and cracked it open and scared yourself, if you hadnt done that then it would have been the same as ridding it restriced. Genraly i think the main problem is peopels lack of control over them selfs, just go slow for a while and slowly pick up the pace. Dont just throw youself in the deepend

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:07 pm
by superman
Ah but thats why they put this restriction limit on cos there aint many 17 year olds who wouldnt thrash the $hit off it when i was 17 i know i would, i think it showed that he has a good head on his sholders to get the bike restricted for sure.

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:09 pm
by superman
toad WTF! lol :smt005

Is it me or is the s word comin up as toad.... why toad

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:52 pm
by deviant
superman wrote:toad WTF! lol :smt005

Is it me or is the s word comin up as toad.... why toad
see

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4071

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:23 pm
by masterofinsanity
Sh*t also know as turd and as i'm censoring words and substituting animals toad was the nearest i could think of to turd :smt003

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:27 am
by superman
Ah now it makes sence, i see, i did think that was quite funny thoe i had to go to edit a couple of times to see what i wrote. but i shal abide by the rules and not swear.

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:09 pm
by mycallsevern
Right, is it just me or do people seem to think that only 2 bikes exist, there are more bikes out there than the RS125 and ZXR400. When I was 12 I started riding off road on a CR85 big wheel, at 14 I changed that to a KX125. At 16 I was allowed to ride on the road :smt077 so I got a Peugeot Trekker 50cc scooter, which I bought de-restricted, at 17 I traded this for a Hyosung XRX125 I did my test and a month later a woman pulled out in front of me and wrote off my bike.

After 6 months recovering I got some insurance money and bought a KDX200 and a KLX250, I used them both to race enduro and both on the road, although I did end up favouring the KDX as it was completely mental. Then I sold both bikes and bought a Honda CRX (car). After a year of driving the CRX on the road and track I sold it. 6 months or so later I bought the ZXR400 and I also have a GPZ500 I am going to sort out for the missus (one day soon I promise :smt012 ).

What I am trying to say is although I had been riding off road, which teaches you very quickly how to control a bike, when I started riding on the road I had to learn a whole new set of skills. I crashed my Hyosung god knows how many times and learnt from each one, then I had the Hyosungs final crash ,RIP. The same with the KDX I crashed through hundreds of fences and hedges, much to the suprise of many a cow. If I had been on a sports bike I would have cost myself thousands of pounds, instead I just straightened my handle bars each time.

And you know what the bike that taught me the most was the KDX, it taught me to antisipated traffic, wheelie, slide the back end, what to do when you hit the power band mid corner, how to prepare for safe overtakes, what to do when the front lifts over the smallest bump in the road, how to talk my way out of dangerous driving fines and even how to get my knee down, thats right knee down on an enduro bike.

My advise is do your test, sell the RS and buy either a 250-400cc trail bike, or a 400-500cc commuter like an ER or CB, you will learn so much about carrying corner speed how to antisipate other drivers, what a bike can/can't do and more importantly what you can/can't do. You may not look as cool but when you crash it and you will crash it you won't have to shell out as much to fix it and so you will get a better return when you come to sell it.

And as for saying a bike is restricted when its not, the police won't care, but your insurance will, if you have a crash the first thing they will do is check for the restrictors if they are missing you will invalidate your insurance, which will result in an IN10 and 6 points on your licence. Also if you hit someone and really hurt them and you aren't insured they can sue you personally, let alone having to live with the fact you hurt someone and they can't get the help they need to recover because you aren't insured, and all just for the sake of a few extra horses.

Think about it we never stop learning, so take your time to learn properly.

Re: restricted 400 at 17

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:32 pm
by superman
yea you can learn about anticipating traffic on anybike or car that comes with time spent on the road.