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Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:22 pm
by racc
I take it the tensioner is at the bottom does it look right ?
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:40 pm
by cargo
Yeah thats the tensioner ok and it doesn't look like it's at full extension
If the mounting bolts were removed and then replaced it is possible that your cam chain is over tensioned.
As a starting point I'd remove the tensioner and reset it.................see if that makes a difference
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:42 pm
by racc
but would it cause a bad rattle ?
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:58 pm
by MillaMeter
Hi,
The tensioner is that silver rod in the bottom left hand corner. Are you sure the cam chain has been changed? that's looks rather close to it's limit to me and looks like the cam chain could do with replacing soon. I bought a 9000 mile zx400 engine

and when I swapped the tensioner over from the nasty crappy design 1 to the later L design, the rod hardly even moved! it pretty much sits right at the bottom. Surely if the cam chain was replaced the tensioner rod would be right at the bottom and not the top.
I would also take Cargos advice, reset the tensioner and put it back in. Over tightend or too loose tensioner rattle nicely. You have to get them just right.
Regards
Rich
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:23 pm
by racc
how do you reset that then ? anyone got a cheap engine

Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:34 pm
by MillaMeter
Hi,
First thing you have to do is take out that bolt on the side of the tensioner, located near the bottom. (in your picture I can see it's on the very left of the tensioner) [Coloured Green] There's a little ratchet system on the tensioner itself. See on the tensioner the little tiny straight grooves on the rod? at the bottom there's a tiny lever/arm [Circled Red] Move that arm back and push the rod into the tensioner as far as it goes [Arrowed Blue] (it's pretty dam strong.) Then slot in a very small but strong pin into the hole where you took that bolt out at the start. Bolt the tensioner to the engine and then pull the pin out. put the bolt back in the side and job done.
Regards
Rich
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:54 pm
by racc
Thanks, done that and its gone back to the same place as before after tunring engine over by hand
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:04 pm
by RedexRobB
Surely if the tensioner is extending most of the way its because the tensioner blade is worn? Or am i wrong in my assumptions?
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:11 pm
by MillaMeter
RedexRobB wrote:Surely if the tensioner is extending most of the way its because the tensioner blade is worn? Or am i wrong in my assumptions?
Hi,
To be quite honest I don't honestly know or what a blade looks like when it's worn or unworn (new), I took my blade out of the L2 engine which had done 44k km and transfered it over to my new zx400 engine and everything is working like a treat.
racc wrote:Thanks, done that and its gone back to the same place as before after tunring engine over by hand
Yeah that's fine, a couple of clicks on the tensioner too far can corse the engine to rattle. By resetting the tensioner, you now know that the tensioner is at it's right tension. Put everything back together then have a listen.
Regards
Rich
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:14 pm
by racc
and just to add to my joy who ever put the bolts back in the tensioner has stripped the threads in the bolt hole . so only one bolt hold the tensioner in :smt013
Re: rattle on engine
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:35 pm
by MillaMeter
racc wrote:and just to add to my joy who every put the bolts back in the tensioner has stripped the threads in the bolt hole . so only one bolt hold the tensioner in :smt013
Hi,
Oh dear, well that wont help at all. Looks like you'll be on the hunt for some heli coils mate.
Regards
Rich