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Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:00 pm
by crushedlizard
Hello all, long time no see.

I've been busting my balls at my new job but the good in all of this is that I now have funds for the ZXR project.
So, I got her out of her stable today and whipped off the rear caliper and tried to fire her up.

Now, straight back in with a couple of questions.

1) How are you supposed to get the pins out of the back of the pads? I removed the R-clips and yet they don't want to move. Are they just corroded in place? Or is there some trick I'm missing? Surely you don't split the block just to change pads! :smt002

2) Now, admittedly I've not even checked for a spark here (I don't have the right socket - I'm guessing it's a 10mm spark plug socket?). But, I tried starting her without the fuel tank, airbox, and exhaust end can, but she didn't want to fire up earlier.

I simply plugged a funnel into some fuel hose and tried to turn her over. She sucked in a fair amount of fuel (I imagine filling the float chamber ma thingies) but she wouldn't fire.
So, although I've failed to check the obvious such as compression and spark. Am I being really thick here in trying to start he without airbox, end can and fuel tank? Or should she still be able to run, albeit rather rough?

I'm going to give her some proper attention next weekend but just sort of reflecting on todays brief encounter.

Can't wait to get her going again!

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:11 pm
by cargo
heat followed by cold and repeat as nesscessary will get the pin out...................eventually

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:13 pm
by crushedlizard
cargo wrote:heat followed by cold and repeat as nesscessary will get the pin out...................eventually
Excellent, thanks. Very quick response time too!

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:24 pm
by Chris1984
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=6497 same problem with me also have to get the rear pistons out and give them a good clean and change seals as the dust seals are bulging out.only one piston moving the other is jammed solid.

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:46 am
by RedexRobB
Once youve got that pin out, when you put it all back together use a fair bit of copper grease on the end to stop i corroding stuck again :)

Starting wise, how long has it been stood for? It could well be that the fuel has gone off and gummed up the carbs. It should start fine without the airbox, might want to think about putting the silencer on although im sure it doesnt make too much difference.

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:27 am
by cargo
Have we not been here before with the copper grease...........................three metals ally caliper, steel pin and copper grease................ throw in some road grime and salt and you have a little battery.......................use a good high temp grease but not the copper stuff. IMHO

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:38 pm
by bendog66
it takes bloody ages to start them when there's no fuel in. About 30 odd seconds of constant turning over.

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:17 pm
by RedexRobB
cargo wrote:Have we not been here before with the copper grease...........................three metals ally caliper, steel pin and copper grease................ throw in some road grime and salt and you have a little battery.......................use a good high temp grease but not the copper stuff. IMHO
ooo we have! They were stainless steel bolts in my forks that time, however. Ive not had any problems before with using copper grease on those pins either. But point noted and grease you should use! :smt003

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:06 pm
by cargo
You could be right rob maybe it's just stainless that reacts badly to the copper stuff

Re: Hello again - trouble starting.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:54 pm
by parby81
as you have the airbox off, you could try pouring half a thimble full of petrol down each carb. Should at least give a cough and a splutter if not actually start.