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Everybody gets the odd false neutral, or sometimes an unclean change from first to 2nd.

But lately i've been noticing a lot of times, especially during overtaking, the bike kept jumping out of gear into neutral.

First i thought it was me being crap, so i started being careful, and it seems that it jumps out of 2nd gear at 8,000rpm or over.

It's fine in every other gear, and in 2nd it pulls fine in gear up to 8000rpm, then *PING* as if by magic it jumps into neutral!!!

It seems to be more a problem with the selector (i have had this apart so maybe i've put it back together and it's a bit out) - but wouldn't it do it in every gear???

Likewise, if teeth were stripped from the cog, then surely it would affect the lower revs when you bear in mind i have Um Plenty Big Torque well below 8k.

Any ideas???

Oooh and it's worth mentioning my clutchplates have been worn and slipping for a few months - but don't think this would actually affect gear selection?

is your chain in good nick and adjusted right? could also just be something as simple as clutch cable

LOL don't go telling me i've gotta change the chain again!!!

It's only a couple of hundred miles old and in excellent condition! I take good care of my chain and adjust and lube it regularly.

As far as i know the clutch cable is ok - wouldn't both of these affect all the gears?

Top Tip try changing your oil to Silkolene 10w40 Ride

Yes the cheaper oil i used to get a lot of false neutral then i changed my oil seems to be okay dont know why but for £10-£15 could be worth trying if it works for you job done if not then at least you have changed the oil

And no i dont work for Silkolene

Hope this does help out

Loopy wrote:Change the bloody clutch

if I can do it anyone can

thought you didn't have the knowledge ?

My issue is with spending around £60 on the clutchplates and gasket when i'm gonna need that money to insure a ZX9-R...

Chances are i'm selling the 444 as is....

then dont worry about it! leave the problem for someone else!!

my zxr started doing it a lot towards the end of its life, one of the reasons i just got rid of it before it went BANG

LOL that's not gonna be the best selling-point for it!

If i can sort it simply and cheaply before i sell it, then i will.

Or i can at least let the buyer know exactly what they'll have to do to fix it.