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"Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:39 am
by Jamz
Got this email from a Police contact :smt009 :

You might like to all be aware that on the A448 between Redditch and Bromsgrove they are currently installing SPECS average speed cameras.



These take an ANPR reading at each end of the dual carriageway and then work out your average speed. They don't have a flash, don't need light and never run out of film.



Don't say I didn't warn you.



SPECS Speed Cameras

SPECS average speed camera systems utilise state of the art video system with Automatic Number Plate Reading (ANPR) digital technology. Consisting of a minimum of two cameras each fitted with infra red illuminators fitted on gantries above the road, so they can work day or night. SPECS speed cameras work out the vehicles average speed, given the time it takes to drive between the two camera positions.


SPECS average speed cameras are fitted either at the roadside or in the central reservation (as pictured below) a set distance apart to create a speed controlled zone, or where appropriate, groups of cameras can be linked to create a speed controlled network.

As vehicles pass between the entry and exit camera points their number plates are digitally recorded, whether speeding or not. Then, by ANPR recognition, the images on the video of matching number plates are paired up, and because each image carries a date and time stamp, the computer can then work out your average speed between the cameras. There is no film used for SPECS.

SPECS are commonly used to enforce speed limits on dual carriageways and motorways. This is because one SPECS gantry can monitor up to four lanes of traffic at any one time.

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:24 pm
by RedexRobB
I think im right in saying they can monitor 4 lanes, but if you change lane half way through they cant do you for speeding. Your ok on a bike anyhow, they dont read the back.

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:31 pm
by superman
they can pick you up whatever lane you move into i think. but they only take the front reading, i bet its only a matter of time before they catch onto that thoe aint it.

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:53 pm
by RedexRobB
SPECS has been around for years, im sure they are more than aware of it.

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:43 pm
by reds
yeah i saw those the other day when i was riving back to leamington - not suprised, thats 10 odd miles without any speed cameras, everyone bats about on there.

but as they take a picture from the front, no worries on the bike, just in the car

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:13 am
by Jamz
reds wrote:yeah i saw those the other day when i was riving back to leamington - not suprised, thats 10 odd miles without any speed cameras, everyone bats about on there.

but as they take a picture from the front, no worries on the bike, just in the car

From what I've seen, they're only on the Redditch - Bromsgrove side. So far for me, this is good. winks

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:31 pm
by Jeppo
I asked a policeman about the whole bikes being fine thing. And basically you're right - however he did mention a case where someone used to fly through these sections of road and give the camera the finger!!

Based on his bike/leathers/helmets, they eventually set up a car to wait for him and they picked him up/prosectued him

So basicaly as long as your not stupid you can get away with going a little quicker than the stated 50

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:51 pm
by Jamz
Jeppo wrote:I asked a policeman about the whole bikes being fine thing. And basically you're right - however he did mention a case where someone used to fly through these sections of road and give the camera the finger!!

Based on his bike/leathers/helmets, they eventually set up a car to wait for him and they picked him up/prosectued him

So basicaly as long as your not stupid you can get away with going a little quicker than the stated 50
It's not too much trouble to catch someone who uses the same route at the same time.

I think it's a national speed limit road, so it's 70mph anyway. That's why this stinks of revenue making... :wanker

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:32 pm
by Jeppo
Aa rite i see. i was just assuming 50 due to the M1 average speed checks lol

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:07 pm
by zxrnoakze400
these cameras are a pain :wanker , as a courier i see many of them on the roads of britan and often drive a few mph faster than alowed, so i asume some of them could be dummies? found the part with the guy sticking his finger up at it each day hilarious!

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:52 pm
by jack sharpezxr 400 L
30 mph im sure they allow you up to 36 mph any lower and you can argue it ??happppppppppppppyyyyyyyy newewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yearrrrrrrr no one drink and driveeeeeeeeee pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

Re: "Average" Speed cameras - A448

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:04 am
by reds
the copper i know told me he was told in training 10% plus 2 so in a 30 - 35mph, 40 - 46mph etc... but its at their discretion !