ZXR400 H1 Race Spec

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ZXR400 H1 Race Spec

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My first go at a build thread!

I don't consider myself a mechanic but back in October 2006 I decided I'd like a track bike but wasn't prepared to spend over £1k for one. I only passed my test in November 2005 and started riding in March 2006 when I'd bought a VFR400 NC30. I'd stared doing the basics on that, like oil and filter changes, taking the wheels off and taking the fairing off so I was a bit nervous of buying something half completed, let alone building something half completed.

I picked up a ZXR400 H that a guy used for spares for another ZXR400 L for under a grand with loads of spares chucked in. It had most of the parts but needed putting together, plus a few bits and bobs here and there.

I'm finding that getting spares for the H are mainly from Cradley Kawasaki and breakers yards. Some L stuff can be modified to fit but I'm still at the mechanical stage rather than the cosmetic stage of development. I guess the fairings and painting are the best and final part of a build. The aim is to get this bike sorted for a track day at Llandow on 1st June 2007.

I didn't completely strip and rebuild it but I did take all the fairings etc off along with the carbs to give it a good clean and de-grease.
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As you can see the exhaust might need de-rusting. There's some good stuff from Halfords that I'm looking to get but if anyone has any thoughts on what they recommend I'm all ears.

The first problem after putting the carbs on was the throttle cable. For some reason it wouldn't snap shut. Some said that for a race bike you wouldn't need it but on deeper research they check this in scrutineering (not that I'm going racing with this... I don't think so anyway :smt017 ).

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I was told that I'd need a throttle adjustment spring, which I ordered from Cradley Kawasaki but wasn't entirely sure where it was supposed to go! Stupid really but managed to sort the throttle return so that it would spring back nicely, purely by getting a pair of pliers and tightening the clamp that holds it in place. You see, at first the cable was slipping out of the clamp and not returning, no matter how much tension was on it. By holding it in place it return no problem. If anyone knows where this spring should go (its about 10mm long) please let me know!

Next I had a problem with fitting the L clocks on the H frame. The bracket is totally different and without sawing it up would not fit into the frame.
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I know the screws are still in but it wouldn't fit either way! :smt019 I looked on eBay for a clock mounting bracket only to find that one breakers yard was selling one for about £20. Sod that. Waited about 2 weeks later and another one appeard for 99p. Cost about £5 including postage and packing but was worth it as I'm so lazy and couldn't be arsed to saw up the L bracket :smt015 . Anyway, I'll come back to this later...

... In the meantime, I got the airbox on and connected a few hoses. I'll have to get someone to check they all lead to the right place or I'll end up setting myself on fire.
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Then I put on the tank and it's starting to look like a bike now!
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Still, the rust on those exhausts are really starting to annoy me :smt011

I looked around the interweb for an undertray to secure the electrics to, instead of that horrible black plastic thing on the subframe. Seems as though these are not yet invented, so looks like I'll have to make my own.
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While I'm researching possibilities for this I try and get the tank connected and some fuel into the carbs for a possible sample start. As you can imagine I'm crap at getting one thing finished before starting another thing, so usually when I'm waiting for parts to arrive I'll make a start on something else.

I turned the fuel tap on when I connected the tank and the tap started to leak. I'm no genius but even I know that's not supposed to happen. I ordered some new rubber seals after taking the tap apart and giving it a clean internally. They arrived last week minus the main oval seal that sits between the tank and the tap so I had to phone them up yesterday to get them to send it. I'll not be paying for P&P for that one though!

After reconnecting the hoses I now know (thanks to RobB and Masterofinsanity!) that some were the wrong way round or connected to the wrong places. I now know that the fuel pump hose B goes to the carbs (in the middle?) and A now goes to the fuel tank.
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I connected up the battery and turn on the kill switch and the motor wirred and clicked into life. At least I know this works!

Anyway, back to the undertray project...

... I've seen various pictures of modified aluminium and carbon fibre plates to hold various electrics and thought all I needed was a small aluminium plate with 2 drill holes either side to hold it to the rear subframe.
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I made one up with a slice of cardboard box (from Threshers :smt003 ) and taped the electrics to it. Can anyone tell me if this is the CDi unit? What is the other bit?
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I also needed a battery box made up. Perhaps something from aluminium again. I made up a cardboard prototype and slotted it into the subframe where I thought it would be best kept. I have no idea where it would go originally. But I guess I would sit it in between the tank and the rear swing arm where the hole is. This doesn't seem to foul the suspension but I haven't had it fully compressed yet with my butt on it.
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The idea was to get brackets to attach the master cylinder and fuse box to the subframe. Here they are taped up in position. Hopefully this will not foul the battery box.
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Ok, back to the clocks. After I did a mock up with fitting the L clocks to the H clock bracket I knew I'd have to shape the plastics slightly to get a better fit. For this, I simply cut a 'V' (if you're doing this try a 'U' as my cutting ability sucks ass and the bar it sits on is round) and screwed the clocks in place.
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Oh, before I did this I gave it a spray with Hammerite as it was a tad rusty.
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The clocks fitted on to the bracket fine and then onto the H frame fine.
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Are you still with me? :smt015 Good. This has been over a few months by the way. I do have a full time job!

Still waiting for the rubber tank seals I decided at the weekend to try and get a seat cowl sorted. The guy I bought the bike from threw in a couple of seat cowls to play around with. The original didn't fit so well, so I'm guessing this is the L model. The one below fits better but with a few interesting mods.
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There are only 2 bolt holes (one either side) fixing the cowl onto the subframe. I tried putting pressure on it but I could hear this god-awful cracking sound so it has to be supported in another way somehow.

I had a block of wood that I screwed in under the subframe so it sat on top of the tail. This raised the back and the front of the cowl dropped. At least it didn't foul the tank now. Looking underneath it, it doesn't come into contact with the CDi unit and 'plate'.
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Still, it wasn't properly supported at the front. I took it upon myself to model my own brackets form an old seat I had. I cut the cover and foam out and was intending to use the plastic lugs underneath.
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I cut them out on each side to the size below.
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The idea behind the madness is that the seat cowl will sit on top of the plastic lugs and give more support. The plastic bits will need drilling through the top so they can be held in place where the seat would normally go. I have a feeling that there may still be about another 10mm of space before it touches the underside of the seat cowl. For this reason, I cut out a strip of foam from the massacred seat with the intention that this would fit across the width of the subframe so as to spread the load so it wouldn't crack in the middle. This may need further support so a metal strip may need to go underneath the foam for even more support. I'm not that fat honest, but the thought of falling through the seat at 100mph gives me the willies.
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That's it for the moment. The seals should arrive by the weekend so I can get the fuel tap leak sorted and I also want to get the spark plugs out to inspect them before I check the spark during ignition.

If anyone has any feedback please let me know or if they spot something that isn't right (like those bloody rusty downpipes :smt013 ).
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:smt015 :smt015 :smt015 :smt015 :smt015 :smt015

oh did someone say something???????????????


rusty downpipes?? ang on let me scroll back up.............. ah yes get a flapwheel on your drill and remove the rust, give it a coat of red oxide primer, then get a blow torch and get the exhaust as hot as you can without burning yaself!! then spray with high temp black paint, when they are touch dry put em back on the bike and fire it up, let it tick over for a bit til the headers get well hot to cure the paint! job done!

quality build thread by the way!!!! keep it comin!
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Got the rubber fuel tap seals from Cradley Kawasaki and that stopped the fuel tank leaking - job done. Also got a spark out of the plugs, so I at least know that bit is working.

Going to get some fuel for the tank at the weekend, fill up the radiator and try to give it a bump and see what I get. Fingers crossed!
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Well, filled it up with juice, topped up the rads and after a few bumps it started. I'm so chuffed as I wasn't convinced it would do anything. Plopped it into 1st and pulled away down the path a couple of times - sounds awesome!

Here's how it looks at present.

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There's still the wiring to do so would like to get the tacho connected up but not sure where to?

Temp gauge also needs connecting, as does neutral and oil lights on the dials.

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The seat cowl could do with reinforcing with fibre glass or similar. Hopefully getting the battery box made up in the next week or so and the seat cowl needs to have a few brackets made up to take my weight! :smt019

Next weekend I'll need to do an oil and filter change. Also going to sort the exhausts out.[/img]
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streetfighter it, that looks cool! :smt003
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Re: ZXR400 H1 Race Spec

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What happened to this ?

Oh, what's with the generator cover :smt017
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Little Loris hasn't visited since september mate??
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Shame, this thread was going well - hope all is OK with him though !

Can see how that H1 swinger is going to look on my bike now :smt007
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Hi guys,

Sorry haven't updated for a while. Been mega busy with work and travelling. So much has been happening! I've pretty much got it sorted now but it's been sitting in the garage since it's last trackday so maybe someone can give it the home it deserves?? I'll see if I can update today or tomorrow.
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Good to hear from you LL :smt001

Just hoped I hadn't put my foot in it and you had a nasty one on it shocking

Look forward to any updated piccies :smt004
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Ok, if I think some way back I made some mods to the seat unit as the fibre glass was quite weak and wouldn't hold mine or anybody else's weight, which would be a problem when bump-starting it. Rather than reinforcing the seat with fibre glass again I needed to strengthen it from underneath, so I decided to conjure up a support to stop it from flexing in the middle...

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I decided to massacre the spare seat I had but cutting off the plastic supports (pictured above). I cut off the lugs and screwed them into the rear subframe and checked they were the right height to support a beam.

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I then sampled a piece of wood across the subframe. I was originally going to use this but then thought it might not sustain a slightly damp track!

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While pondering the seat unit support I had a go at the de-rusting the downpipes. First removing them...

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And then giving them a go-over with a wire brush and some wire wool.

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I then applied some de-rusting stuff from Halfords (I forget the name but can check out for anyone that wants to use some). I highly recommend it. Here's the finished product...

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I gave them a spray over with some heat resistant metallic paint but unfortunately didn't take a pic of this but there is one later of the completed product!

Next I decided to have a go at the battery box. I saw a build thread on another website that involved a lot of welding for the battery box and was so impressed i wanted a go but had no welding experience. I decided to keep the battery away from the rear of the bike (because I'm very light) and positioned it in the middle but just behind the rear shock. This should help with changing direction and handling. The box comprised of 4 'L' shaped brackets from Jewsons. These were stainless steel but the weight of these doesn't really concern me.

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My incapacity to keep doing one thing at a time preceeds me and while doing the battery box I found some excess metal that I cut down to size for the support beam across the subframe.

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With a bit of sticky seat foam stripped across the top it provided a cushioned support.

The battery box was secured in with a secure bolt to lock it into place. If I remember rightly I swiped 2 from a DIY store as they were about a quid each. Pikey or what!I don't condone this sort of behaviour and recommend that no one pay anything over a quid for a steel bolt. That's my legal spiel over with.

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The battery was getting pretty badly scratched so I decided to pad it with more sticky foam. Don't worry, I cut enough for the seat already! Also note the foam on the support beam.

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I bought a rear hugger from a fellow ZXR forum member and sawed off some hex bolts to screw into place - perfect fit!! In fact I later found out this was the only thing that actually fit perfectly onto the bike!!

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Oh and I had some unexpected visitors that day as well which interrupted proceedings for a bit while I hid all the sharp objects and chemicals from the twins!!

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Ok, so now for the fun part. I get to add my colour scheme! The idea was based on a Gary Nixon version of the 1970's Kawasaki with gold wheels, as it looks awesome. Also a mix up of the 2007 World Supersport Kawasaki team that the name escapes me, but it had penty of white on as I'm not a big fan of black bikes!!

First I laid out the components, washed them down and with a good window sticker remover that my bro had, removed the excess sticky glue that was left by 12 month odl stickers.

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I removed the paint with a deep graded sand paper and then wet and dried it for a couple of hours with another wash. I used spray from halfords again which was dead cheap (yes, I bought it this time) including some primer and undercoat. I'm not bothered with giving it a lacquer as it'll probably go down the road at some stage in its life. Using tape and careful sweeping motions with the spray I came out with this colour scheme.

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Again I hate black and not a big fan of green but I plan on covering it with stickers or letting some artists have a go with some graffiti on it, but nice graffiti. None of that tagging crap. I also had a go with the seat cowl - some pics of this to follow.

While waiting for this to dry I had a go at making a proper rubber strip for the exhaust end can. You may notice in some earlier pics that the exhaust strap had no rubber covering and the exhaust was just loose. I cut some rubber strap that I removed from an R1 spare carbon end can that I had (shameless plug - if anyone wants the carbon end can I'd be happy to show you a pic if you want to buy on the cheap).

I also bought a roll of steel strip with various sized holes in (C/o Jewsons) for attachment and cut it to length. The end product is pretty impressive, strong and light.

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Next up was the undertray and you can see below how I used the perforated strip to hold the plastic undertray in place. I was not sure about using this but it seemed the lightest and cheapest option.

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I decided to go for the current undertray rather than cut up and weld a new one, as originally planned. This is sturdy and involved a bit of cutting and drilling, but is secure enough to hold all electrics and prevent from getting wet. In future with more time I''ll be looking to get a fibreglass one made up for the seat cowl along with a metal plate for the electrics.

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Finally, I nice pic of the completed exhausts!

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The fairing fit was a nightmare. Everyone says they do fit (L with H and vice versa) with a bit of twisting and shaping but I had to slip mine forward slightly so it missed the L clocks and held onto the fairing bracket properly. I used some perforated steel strip to secure it in place near the windscreen and screwed it in place at the bottom and hey presto! I drilled a hole or two in the fairing to fit screw holes but lining it up by yourself is a royal pain in the butt. If you're doing this at home, hide all sharp objects and power tools away from quick grask as you may use them on yourself or worse, THE BIKE!! Be calm and have a few cups of tea or in my case, a can of lager or two and a lot of patience and laughing you'll get it sorted. If you're doing this mod or want to, give me a shout and I can take some pics of where it is drilled and secured.

I sprayed up the rear seat cowl, which fitted nicely if not with a few scratches underneath. I really need to strengthen this if it is to go completitive but for me this is perfect as I don't put much pressure on the seat with my weight - I'm quite 'Dani Pedrosa' in that way!

Finally, the finished product. For me, it looks and sounds awesome. I love how it screams and handles. It doesn't feel like it's going to fall apart, which was what I was most worried about. The engine works well and is very strong, considering its age.

The funniest thing for me is, that when I took it along for it's shakedown test at Llandow in summer 2007, everyone was looking at it strangely. I asked "What's so funny?" And they replied pointing and laughing, "How do you intend to ride THAT without a gassed rear shock??" "Wait and see" I said.

Truth is, it does have a rear shock but I've no need to gas it as the hardest setting was enough for me. I didn't want it so hard that it shook things off the bike initially and to be honest, I'm light enough so that it handles well for the bumpy Llandow track and absorbed well. Everything stayed on the bike and if I was going to take it racing, then yes, I would invest in gassing a rear shock for it.

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And the creator!

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I think a nice girl in a bikini would've been more appropriate but I'm working on it, trust me.

Unfortunately, I'm looking to sell this bike now as it hasn't seen a trackday since 2007. I have started it just before winter 2008 and it started fine after a few bumps so no problems there. I think it needs a good home now and someone that will look after it. It has loads of spares so I'll whack it in the 'For sale' section but at least you know now how it was born, which is something not a lot of people have knowledge of!! If you're interested, drop me a pm.

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Great stuff !! Well done that man :smt023

Tail unit is a bit bland for me and thought a few "air" vents cut into it might break it up a bit :smt025

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I think you're right and given the time and budget I had I think it serves its purpose well. Overall I think I spent about £100 on doing it up. Lots of the parts came from bike breakers and forum members, so thanks to all that contributed. I'm just hoping someone will pick it up and be able to make good use of it!!
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Awesome looking bike mate.

I love it :D
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