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Re: Brembo master cylinder

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lol gem hes still saying that the problem is still there!

Drew cheers for the info, i've been thinking of going down the same path as you. They used the same calipers on the bandit 1200 i belive, just annoying that i've just brought £30 worth of pads to try and sort the problem with the 6pots :(

I also think the brembo gold line calipers are 90mm spacing, far more trick looking than the 6pots for you fashion whores.
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you can't beat the 4 pots on my gix. :smt003
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i appreciate the problem may still exist, but i only need a slight improvement and i will b happy, i dont do trackdays nor race so if i can get just a 50% improvement then i'm still happy

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Gemini wrote:i appreciate the problem may still exist, but i only need a slight improvement and i will b happy, i dont do trackdays nor race so if i can get just a 50% improvement then i'm still happy

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My 6 pots wont do one finger stoppies but by fook do they work! When my bruv was over his comment was " that has f@ck'n brakes!!! "

The Nissin's I showed will produce one finger stoppies if that's what you want to do - although i haven't done any track work on the bike yet! I do go horsin round the local mountain and I don't hang about. i actually have to pull over and take a beta blocker as at times the adrenaline get's to much :smt005

Never felt any fade in the Tokico's and indeed with that little more travel feel a "cushion" of error - What i did need to do was put my span adjuster all the way to the top position and suddenly it didn't have travel any more - nothing changed except my perception that it must be performing better as I can no longer nearly touch the bar with it. i have stubby fingers and run the adjusters at 6 which even makes the clutch feel soggy.

Your Brembo radial is awesome - loads of ZRX11/1200 use them and they are one finger braking - my business partners bike has them fitted and you can just get the micro switch for the brake light to click before the travel stops shocking ! Keep telling him he needs a pressure switch!

Get yourself to a shop that uses an airline suction bleeder - the Tokico's trap air everywhere, have it done again several weeks later.
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my uncle is a mechanic and he has a brake bleeder which works off the compressor!

have already ordered a pressure switch,

thanks for your advice

a brake for one finger stoppies is not what im after, that could potentially b very dangerous on the road, especially in the wet, but any improvement will b better than they are now

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rene wrote:lol gem hes still saying that the problem is still there!

Drew cheers for the info, i've been thinking of going down the same path as you. They used the same calipers on the bandit 1200 i belive, just annoying that i've just brought £30 worth of pads to try and sort the problem with the 6pots :(

I also think the brembo gold line calipers are 90mm spacing, far more trick looking than the 6pots for you fashion whores.
Think your right about the 1st gen bandit's having them too - they are the best of the Jap callipers.

Brembo's are 40 or 60mm spacing only. The mono block billet 30/34 racings will set you back about 2k in the UK shocking

I just bought used two piece billet radials which fit the ZX-636 forks :smt007 they cost me £580 ( 900 miles use as new) , might need to sell them but don't want to they are stunning :smt010

if your having problems with your six pots the best thing to do is put a new seal kit in them, everybody reports that when their bike was new the brakes were stunning - they are high maintenance but so is any performance part. I clean my TMR-MJN carb's every 5-600 miles to keep them performing tip-top.

Manually bleeding these callipers is also useless unless you detach them and put 7mm plywood between the pads and dangle them above the master cylinder with the nipples at the highest point and hit then with a rubber mallet every now and again :smt011
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i have replaced all seals

the pistons were also cleaned thanks to baz

and im gonna take calipers. lines and mc to my uncle to bleed them off the bike as u suggest

7mm piece of wood u say?

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Gemini wrote:i have replaced all seals

the pistons were also cleaned thanks to baz

and im gonna take calipers. lines and mc to my uncle to bleed them off the bike as u suggest

7mm piece of wood u say?

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Your discs are hopefully 5mm :smt005

So dont need to go much bigger than that - but give yourself a bit for fitting back on - DO NOT use pine it has to be a hard wood which most ply's are made of or the pads will dig in. Ideally 7mm steel inserts would be best.

If your uncle's doing it as a freebie just leave it hooked up and as he is bleeding tap the callipers with a rubber mallet. Go get you callipers hot a few times and go back and repeat procedure - they'll be fine :smt002
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think i've got them old discs still Gem?
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thanks for the advice, again

trouble with using the loose discs is they are a bit bulky.

im pretty sure my uncle will have some spare metal or hardwood lyin around

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ATTENTION: THOSE WITH SQUISHY BRAKES

have spent all day rebuilding brakes - again :smt015

calipers stripped, pistons cleaned, ptfe taped all threads and red rubber greased the pistons and pots

fitted the brembo mc, absolute toad of a job, only just had enough room with new pressure brake switch missing throttle cables! shocking

bled the lines, several passes... and guess what?

all the excessive lever travel i had with old mc has gone, the lever feels firm and the bite/power is amazing, will take it for a good run to bed the pads in tomorrow if it dries up! :smt013

will keep bleeding every month or so and keep onto cleaning the calipers, haven't even bled the mc yet, so things can only get better.

so to all of you who doubted my plans and efforts... :smt019 :smt019 :smt019 :smt019 :smt019

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did you rebuild the mc before you changed it for the brembo?
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rebuilt the original mc yeah

cost £25 for the seal kit and did feck all!

ok the brembo wasnt cheap, set me back £130, but i think i've finally cracked the 6pot mystery, and as i've always maintained, it appears the original mc is too small

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did mine feel any better when i was up for the meet? I thought mine were pretty good.
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yeah yours was 10 times better

who knows why :smt017

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